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System with difference neutral

Q:
I have one system with two source. One from genset and the other from PLN (national power supply company) that each system has neutral.
The question is
1. Is there any problem if I connect both neutral directly?
2. Is there any spark when I connect both neutral?
3. How is the best solution to connect both neutral?

A:
1. I understand that the Genset is dedicated for essential load as an Emergency power supply which will be operated by hand (only in Manual Mode).

2. The Control Philosophy for a Generator that intended to be connected to PLN as emergency power source depends on the local service provider regulations.

3. Usually in your case there should be Electrical as well as Mechanical interlocks between the mains incomer & genset main breaker. ie both Sources will never be in Synchronism ( will not feeding the same load simultaneously).This measures will ensure that there will be only neutral point to the system.

Simulation on EMI

As a mathematical tool eventually, simulation can help to quickly approach the results that we need. If everything is done in right way, simulation can give us reliable conductive EMI results at the low frequency range.

Differential mode conductive EMI can be simulated with good accuracy at the low frequency range. The accuracy of common mode conductive EMI depends on the accuracy of a few parasitic parameters that need to be measured.

Personally for research, I would like to use simulation as a validation tool for calculation, and test results of prototypes can be used as proof for simulation.

E.g. for EMI filter:

1. Do the calculation for the differential mode conductive EMI filter;
2. Do the calculation for common mode conductive EMI filter base upon the parasitic parameters in the hand or estimation;
3. Use the simulation to check and validate if the calculation is right or if something is wrong and needs to be corrected;
4. Use prototype test results to check and validate if the simulation results are right.

Some other issues that caused by EMI filter can be found during system level simulation before prototyping. E.g. audio susceptibility and EMI filter damping problems.

Soft start motor tripped in fuel oil suction and discharge

First of all check all the component i.e.CB, CT, Heat Element, and the O/L setting then megger the motor to be shore that there is no problem with the motor winding insulation.
After that let the mechanical check the vibration analyses during the start-up also measure the startup currant of the motor and diffidently you will find where is the problem.
It could be a relay setting; or problem in the insulation; or even a problem in the motor itself.

On the other hand, check the motor on No Load condition and tune it to the Soft starter before coupling it to the pump.
Auto Tuning feature is generally inbuilt to Advanced soft starters.
If the No load startup of the motor is perfect, 2 causes arise:
1) Improper design.
2) Viscosity _ this can be tackled if you can make some temporary arrangement for pre-heating to confirm if this is the culprit.

As using soft starter could result in reducing torque of the motor. Soft starter normally reduces starting current by reducing starting voltage. However, decreasing voltage will lead to starting toque reduction. Hence, the motor may take longer time, especially when driving high-inertia load, with somewhat high current until it reach its full speed. Using an inverter will help you get full starting torque or even boost up it to 150-200% while keeping starting current at 150-200% of full load. Installation of heat tracing might also help and economic.

Assuming it is an electrical problem. On a motor of this size it has separate overload protection from the ground fault and short circuit protection. There are tolerance levels for motor that you may not be within. However a megger will not answer all the possibilities with motors unless you are ready to perform polarization index test etc….A power analyzer will allow you to see the operation in real world application. Assuming you have confirmed this is an electrical problem your next step would be to use a power analyser. You should be able to confirm by the signature and different placements of the analyzer the problem. Analyzer should be around all three phases.

EMI & EMC

EMI/EMC is rather a subjective topic than theoretic, but we shall look at it with start from noise prevention then noise suppression.

Prevention or design in the solution is needed to concentrate on noise making part/component or its mechanism play in the circuit. These are referring to those part and circuit that directly involve in switching, like PFC mosfet and its driver, PFC diode, DC/DC switching mosfet and its driver, and its output diode, do not left out the magnetic part and layout design, bad design will cause ugly switching then give you headache in EMC problem.

Part/component and topology selection is somehow important in which had some level predetermine your EMI/EMS need to take care, like what Stephen had explained; phase-shift is better than none phase shift.

Mosfet would have higher noise at high frequency but it can be somehow compensated or tolerated or trick by driving speed, by using snubber and may be shielding. The output Diode should be carefully selected so that its high frequency noise is within your output noise spec else is an issue, please make sure this noise is not able to be transmitted out as Radiated noise, or it is not couple into your Primary circuit, else it will all the way out to the input AC then transmitted as Radiated noise. Trr is the parameter to look at, sure the lower the best. Anyhow, some snubber (RC or feerite bead,..) shall be determined and add-in.

Noise suppression is what refer to Filter, energy dumping circuit,.. but somehow is basic need, one of it Input filter that give noise isolation between what generated internal in psu not pass to input supply system that could interfere other system/supply environment (EMI), or what noise environment that could enter into your power supply and interfere your power supply (EMS). Input filter is definitely a must for your switching frequency and its sub-harmonics, which is fall into the EMI standard range.

There are many technique to suppress the noise and is depend on what location, nature of the circuit, switch and diode, like what you means by RCD, is not mistaken is refer to RCD that add across the main transformer, DC/DC switcher and typically at the output Diode, you are on right direction with using this snubber around these component.

Shielding may be needed for your main transformer if you have some gap in it (but is not needed if your controller and your switcher is so call good part), but may be needed after you have made some study it the samples.

Good layout always give peaceful mind, whereby noise part have to be some distant away from noise sensitive controller or decision making circuit, decision making connection point have to wise at right termination point that prevent sense the high noise content signal, but if no choice some RC filter is unpreventable, anyhow and mostly RC is commonly located even is known clean in noise to those decision making circuit.

Improve PF of pumping motor with soft starter controlled

I have 3 pumping motors of 1750 kw 6.6kv, with soft starter they are maintaining a pf of .96-.97. Now I want to install HT capacitors to use these motors in d.o.l, can I take the pf to .99 by using this?

If you are using soft starters now, do not take them out. These are really large motors and starting them across the line is not a good idea. The utility serving you should have designed their service based on you having soft starters for these motors. They probably also have a stipulation stating that you cannot start them all at the same time. Starting one or more them across the line may cause the utility’s transformer fuses to fail. Even if it doesn’t, the flicker may cause other processes in your facility to trip. Especially drives or undervoltage relays in MCC’s.

The only reason to install caps at this point would be to correct for power factor. Since your pf is .96 it will take years if not decades to get a return on your investment (ROI). My utility does not charge a pf penalty until you drop below .90. And even then, it is usually not worth installing a cap bank unless you are under .85 and correct to >.95. Most customers require a 3 to 5 year ROI and you will never get that. We always recommend designing for a .95 pf to leave some “headroom”. So, your existing design sounds like it is correct. Your company may also have a “kva rate” instead of a “kw rate” with the utility. Check with your utility marketing rep to verify what type rate you are own and to help you evaluate your ROI.

Also, when you install a capacitor bank you have to make sure that you do not hit a resonant harmonic frequency. You will have to get the utility involved to give you the short circuit data at the PCC (point of common coupling). If the calculated harmonic resonant point is near the 3,5,7,11 or 13 harmonic, you will need a harmonic filter installed in conjunction with the capacitor bank. That means more money and a longer ROI.

High AC current inductors

There are several issues at work here. For high AC current inductors, you want to have low core losses, low proximity loss in the windings, and low fringing effects.

At normal frequencies, ferrites are by far the lowest core loss, much better than MPP and other so called “low-loss” materials. So you would like to use them from this aspect.

A toroid gives the greatest winding surface for the magnetic material, letting you use the least number of layers and hence minimizing proximity loss. The toroid also has the advantage of putting all the windings on the outside of the structure, facilitating cooling. This is very important.

However, you can’t easily gap a toroid of ferrite, it’s very expensive.

Some aerospace applications actually cut the ferrite toroid into segments and reassemble them with several gaps to solve the problem. The multiple gaps keep fringing effects low. It might be nice if you could buy a set of toroidal segments so you don’t have to do the cutting because that is a big part of the cost. I don’t know if that is a reasonable thing to do, maybe someone can comment.

Once you go to MPP, the core loss goes up, but the distributed gap minimizes the fringing losses.

The MPP lets you run somewhat higher on current before saturation, but if you have high ac you can’t take full advantage of that due to the core losses.

All these tradeoffs (and quite a few more not mentioned for brevity) are the reason that so many different solutions exist.

Avoid generator overload

Two buses of 11kv, 750MVA, 3000A each fed by a transformer of 40MVA and connected through a tie breaker, now connect a generator of 18MW,11kv, 0.8 PF. How to avoid overloading?

The generator is being used as a backup power source in case utility power is lost, based on such info presented, you are going to have a hard time getting this to work with only ONE 18MW gen. In order to connect the 18MW gen to both buses, the total demand should not be more than 80% of 18MW or 14.4MW at .8 power factor. For short run times (10 or 15 minutes), you can load the gen up to 90% for continuous load, but for long run times, you need to keep it at 80%.

Demand is the diversified connected load. Not all 54.22MVA of connected load will be on at the same time, so this is why you “diversify” the load to get your actual demand load. You can look at your power bill or call your utility to find out your total demand. Or you can install a power quality monitor for a couple of weeks to get it.

A general rule of thumb is to assume that 67% of the connected load will be your demand load. But this depends on your operation. Based on this, one generator will not be sufficient for BOTH buses. However, if you are supplying each bus with its own generator, you may be ok.

Another issue is motor starting flicker. Make sure your generator can start your largest motor and that your disconnect breaker or fuses can handle the inrush. I have seen this as an issue, especially when soft starters are used. Soft starters lower the inrush by exploiting the time characteristic. If the soft starter settings do not bring the motor up to speed quickly enough, the overload trip setting on your generator may trip.

The bottom line is, you are going to have to look at this installation much closer in order to make this work with one 18MW gen. You may even have to disconnect some load when you are running on generator.

Creepage in thermal substations

The term creepage distance is specifically associated with porcelain insulators used in the Air Insulated substations. Insulator surface attracts dust, pollution (in industrial areas) and salt (along the sea coast) and these form a conducting layer on the surface of the insulator body when the surface is wet. As long as this surface is dry, there is not much problem. But when it becomes wet during early morning or during winter season the outer surface forms a conducting path along the surface from high voltage terminal to earthed metal fitting at the end of metallic structure and may lead to surface conduction and finally external flash-over. The insulators are provided with Sheds to limit the direct exposer to mist or dew. The protected area of the sheds will not allow formation of continuous conducting layer along the surface of insulator as the part of surface which is under the sheds may not become wet due to mist or dew and this part (length along the bottom surface) of the insulator surface is called protected creepage.

Measurement of corona inception and extinction voltages give a fair idea about the possible flashover even with protected creepage. But these will change under different levels of pollution.
This problem is not present with Composite insulators as the Silicone rubber sheds surface does not allow formation of continuous wet conducting layer as the surface of these insulators is Hydrophobic. Hence higher creepage is not considered for composite insulators.

However air density is also a limiting factor for deciding the creepage of insulators, necessitating higher creepage in case of higher altitudes.
You may have to assess the level of pollution and altitude of substation and select the creepage accordingly.
Medium pollution levels may be 25mm/kV
Very high pollution areas like on the sea coast and chemical and pharmaceutical industrial areas 31mm/kV where the insulators may become expensive alternatively periodic hot line washing is also another solution for cleaning of pollution on insulators.
In case of very high pollution levels GIS may be safe solution (if cost is not an issue)

Thermal substations where there are no electrostatic precipitators may also experience equipment failures due to pollution. Pressurized equipments like SF6 gas circuit breaker experienced external flash-overs during winter months in Northern India The utility was not accepting the theory of insulation failure due to pollution initially but they had to accept the cause of failure as pollution when they had similar failure in the consecutive year during the same winter months and they have resorted to hot line washing since then and there are no more such failures. Sometimes these deposits may not be seen glaringly but failure may happen.

High current intensity harmonics [%THD (A)] in several motors?

Most electric motors that suffer variations in Load already have variable frequency drives, we have capacitors installed in general switchboard to correct the reactive energy and so on. I did a discretization of the electrical consumption by product type, during this energy survey I noticed that in most motors Amperage THD was high, above 40%. I would like to know what effect does it have on efficiency and possible causes and solutions.

One more thing, when is it profitable to substitute motors by high efficiency motors? Because in the transport system I have about 60 electric motors below 10HP with a power factor of 0,6 , I was thinking in installing a capacitor in the switchboard of the transport system.

Variable frequency drives and other power electronic loads will draw harmonic currents from the power source. More VFDs, UPSs, rectifiers, etc means more harmonic current. When harmonic current flows through system impedance, it causes harmonic voltage to be present on the power system. That means there are essentially harmonic voltage sources at each harmonic frequency and therefore loads will draw current (harmonics) at each one of those frequencies. PF Capacitors offer a low impedance path to harmonics (attracting them) and may be damaged when connected to a system with harmonic producing loads. It is also possible for capacitors to cause a resonance condition whereby the harmonics can be amplified. Consider detuned capacitors (with harmonic blocking reactors) or addition of harmonic filters. There are several alternative methods of filtering the harmonics.

Automation solution

Automation is a solution:
1. To reduce the manpower & the CTC due to them.

2. Few skilled technicians can run the automated machines smoothly, with much lesser number of errors & faults (as human is not directly controlling every thing & is not burdened with multitasking challenge for extended duration which causes fatigue and hence errors/faults)

3. The power consumption & time to market can be estimated & reduced as machines will be operated on time & can work for longer durations than human beings & they don’t ask for tea/coffee/lunch breaks nor they ask for incentives. (Care for peoples who are maintaining them as well as care for machines which are earning profits for you, by regular maintenance & regular proper inspection of their conditions). Now days very good automatic power mgmt processors/controllers are available which can maintain the power as per the defined conditions as per the load & real time necessity.

4. Train the operators / technicians regularly to keep them up to date with tricks / methods / operations / principals to handle most situations by their own (will reduce the cost of a nonsense manager who is kept to yell, threat & discriminate subordinates and know only one slogan: “do it properly, otherwise, i will ….”). A training department which actually hold the capability to technically train employees from labor to talented engineers is a necessity of this age, as things are not remains just a lifting boulder & digging holes. We are living in an advance age in which we are having many expectations, competition & external pressures.

5. Finance bugs cries for expenses on NRE costs, salaries & treats this investments like invested in a share/equity/debt fund, but, earning from a business & financial mgmt capability must be inline with level & operations performed by the company. Instead of keeping low minds in tech industries, hire the engineers who has reached to an expertise level in automation industry & know the in depth issues occurring in between & underneath to estimate & expect correct values & timelines. Qualified project managers are much more realistic in their approaches, thoughts, assumptions & mentality.